Good point Golf! Hard to dispute that one....we can figure out the creator...but not the creation obviously?
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Is Satan useful to God?
by JH inhe's been keeping him around for a long time....i guess he must be useful in something, just like insects that must be useful someway..... .
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Is Satan useful to God?
by JH inhe's been keeping him around for a long time....i guess he must be useful in something, just like insects that must be useful someway..... .
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The Dragon
Nice try bubble...but your fact you just presented is a mere disputable guess as well.(with no evidence presented to even back up the claim)
You need to be more honest when you make assertions like that...and I am not picking on you...I have to watch myself as well accidently dong that.
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Will there be death in paradise?
by Bob Loblaw inso, from what i remember,...after armageddon, those righteous jw's who make it through will have to clean up the utter devestation.
imagine 9/11 on a world-wide scale.
they also (from what i remember) will not be miraculously perfect right away.
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The Dragon
Perhaps God will give them a better description on what is to come we should be looking forward to.....seems nessesary to know before anyone can make an informed decision if they want to participate or not.
Whats the hold up?
Not wanting to commit to anything solid and concrete is my "guess".....would be harder to change should the herd not like it or agree...
They are so transparent it blows my mind sometimes..........................
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Is Satan useful to God?
by JH inhe's been keeping him around for a long time....i guess he must be useful in something, just like insects that must be useful someway..... .
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The Dragon
When you think of the word Rebel.....
Jesus was viewed as an authorized rebel who "fuffilled" the law and led a rebellion by exposing those who tried to inforce the old testament rules.
Would God Himself be viewed as a rebel to us and our laws and rules..especially if He started pointing out the flaws and utter stupidity and lack of common sense being used by our current leadership he appointed over us in front of us?
Perhaps we need a topic to further investigate what a rebel is....and see if it could actually be something good imo.
Do you appoint or "allow" idiots to riegn over you? Cause if you do..and you decide you need to put them back in their place...you are setting yourself up to be seen as a rebel in their eyes and those who follow them.....those YOU told to follow and obey them!?
I am getting a little confused here......
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Cicuit Overseer and District Overseer came looking for me today............
by RULES & REGULATIONS inlast week was the 2 day assembly.i didn't go to either one.
today,my mom called and told me the the c.o.
and d.o.came for a visit.i've been attending only once a week and no field service in about 4 years.
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The Dragon
it would be cool of God to let us have our revenge in a good positive way...
Kind of like going in a burning building after our trapped friends and family, and pulling them out exacting revenge on the bloodthirsty hypocrites who want them dead in the process.....
Hmmm...that is strange.....if that is what they really want..and their idea of paradise is to see people like us destroyed...and we are not.....Kinda like helping someone and torturing them by doing so..whether you want to or not?
Kind of like eradicating crime and wars to help the police and weapons manufacturers achieve their goal of world peace...you would also be hurting them at the same time by doing so! Is that what happens when your advertised goal is secretly your worst nightmare?
Interesting......
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Where did JesusGet this Idea From?
by gumby inas we all know, jesus many times quoted the old law, but then he'd give a further application of that law.
one example is the passage in matthew 5:43,44 which says, "you must love your neighbor and hate your enemy (44) however i say to you, you must love your enemy and pray for those persecuting you".. so, the question is....where did jesus get the idea from which says "you must hate your enemy"?
did the 'law' teach this idea?.
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The Dragon
As today we are told to obey the leaders and rulers of our day and their rules to the best of our abilities...we are not authorized to lead a rebellion...even if they are wrong and evil in their thoughts and intentions...as they were in Jesus' day.
HE was authorized to expose and chastise them...and was not bound by their rules and opinions..as they were trying to follow and force others to obey His themselves.....
He had the authority to change the rules...or "fuffill" them as He defined it.....
His authority came from being foretold and expected.....by His killers...who where hoping He would be ridding them of all the people who could not measure up to their standards.
He led a rebellion of sorts by exposing their evil thoughts and intentions to those who followed and obeyed them as men of God.
The next rebel leader will also be fuffilling prophecies so that His authority will not be in question or a guess...but rather undisputable....This helper or spirit of truth He foretold is also evil....which is something completly different.
Who is the most evil rebel leader of all?
That where my research is taking my guesses.....
Things are not quite what they seem the further I dig for some kind of answers.
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Timothy And His Secular Education
by Justitia Themis inthe following quote appears in a may 1 watchtower study article.
does anyone have any information on the greek educational system?
when did education begin?
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The Dragon
That tells me that if they are God's mouthpiece and his organization.....You are smarter than the God they represent and take orders from....at least as near as I can tell from a money view-point anyway.
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Timothy And His Secular Education
by Justitia Themis inthe following quote appears in a may 1 watchtower study article.
does anyone have any information on the greek educational system?
when did education begin?
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Diane Wilson~~~ex-JW
by purplesofa inpublished in psychology today~~~here is a small bit from the article.
http://www.dianewilson.net/disc.htm.
as desperate as i was to be convinced that the society would have no effect on my destiny, at some level i still believed it was god's channel and that my life hinged on obedience to it.
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The Dragon
I would feel guilty selling it for money...it would alienate those who have little money like myself...and puts her motives and intentions into question imo.
I am just too wary perhaps....
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Does Goofy Speculation of Prophecy by the WTBS reason to leave?
by Mad inmany leave because of it- yet isn't the truth and the wtbs seperate entities?.
the mad jw.
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The Dragon
That was a good point KW13 made!
Is there a punishment for making attempts at foretelling the future without permission to do so?
They have not been punished yet for it...it would seem.....
But excuse me...did not satan try to tell Eve what their future was going to hold if she ate from the tree? Was he not fortelling the future for her..by acting as if he had divine knowledge of God and could accurractly judge His response to hers?
Excuse me....but what is the difference between the what the serpent did and what the WTB is still doing?